A Whole New Perspective on Discipline
July 10, 2025
Article highlights:
- Have trouble disciplining yourself?
- A new look at an old chestnut
How were you disciplined as a child? What did school teach you about discipline or your church? Discipline. After years — or lifetimes for most of us — of harsh, forced ideas about discipline as children, in monasteries and ashrams, it’s no wonder a lot of us feel wary about it, or even burned out. Perhaps its time to rethink it? Well, I came across the perfect new perspective to do that!
An author and writer I follow, MasonCurrey@substack.com has a monthly column about creativity I enjoy. In a recently blog about the creative habits of composer John Cage he cites a quote from the 2012 Cage biography by David Revill.
Mason focuses on Cage’s perspective regarding discipline, sharing that it “blew his mind” to think of discipline in this way. I have to say that I was also impacted strongly by Cage’s approach to self-discipline. My thought was, “This is the outlook on disciple that every modern spiritual seeker should adopt for their beliefs and practices!”
Naturally, then, I thought of you. I think you’ll love it as much as I (and Mason) did. To share it, let me first drop in the paragraph Mason shared by the Cage biographer and let you discover it as I did.
Revill writes: “Cage points out that discipline comes from the same root as “disciple” — one gives oneself up, administers one’s life from the core of one’s being so it may follow a path. “Discipline is giving yourself rather than expecting things to give themselves to you,” in the formulation of Cage.
“Disciplines are important as disciplines. The specific nature of the discipline is not as important as the discipline itself.” He proposes, “the question is not what should I do or how to do it but how one achieves the state of being disciplined — learning true discipline is to give oneself up.”
Then Mason Currey continues,
“OK, this kind of blew my mind. Discipline is not a virtue that some people possess and others lack, Cage says, nor is it a muscle to be exercised and strengthened over time. Rather, it is giving yourself over to something. It is not about exerting self-control; it’s about surrendering control.”
Whoa! Right? Many of us have struggled with, or shied away, or rebelled against the idea of spiritual discipline. Certainly that includes me — too many lifetimes in ashrams and monasteries perhaps. Forcing and regimenting feels more exhausting than freeing.
But giving oneself to one’s practice or commitment or to one’s spiritual path in general — well that feels like a fabulous fit to me! What a perfect upgrade of discipline for the spiritual journeyer of any kind, right?
I also love the sentence saying , “one gives oneself up, administers one’s life from the core of one’s being so it may follow a path.” Think of that… living or administering your life from the core of your being to allows your life to unfold from your core! Doesn’t that just make soOoo much sense? It does to me.
You can even apply that to daily living… to you work, to changing your diet or a habit, to exercising, or to any aspect of your day. As a “giving” not a forcing, or a “have to.” Redefining discipline in this way is a wonderful AHA for me, how about you?
With love,
~ 💗 Mayet
